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our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the constitution. not a lobbying group, but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters, the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa
our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the constitution. not a lobbying group, but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters, the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now,...
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there's this notion that the nra is a defender of the second amendment and the fact is that our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment, defenders of the constitution, not a lobbying group but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters but the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say from the lobbying groups. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. >>> connecticut's number one fm radio show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the two radio hosts got
there's this notion that the nra is a defender of the second amendment and the fact is that our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment, defenders of the constitution, not a lobbying group but it's the lobbyists who have our government by the throats, not the voters but the lobbyists. you're seeing politicians make decisions based on what they think the money is going to say from the lobbying groups. the nra is one example. once upon a time, we...
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i started to say this before the election day. the first step in the fiscal cliff ought to be a republican discussion about what they were and were not willing to do. that did that seem to take place until earlier this week. the conversation was inconclusive. the one thing that has not happened yet, democrats have provided the votes on a lot of budget-related matters over the years but it was only after the tea party gave boehner permission to negotiate with the democrats -- those circumstances have to happen. we see you pushed as hard as you could. we now need to get something done. we're going to vote against this but work with the democrats. host: we have spoken to a number of republicans who say that the problem is spending. the government needs to cut spending. that is where we need to go in terms of reducing the deficit. guest: that is true, we need to cut spending, but there is some conflicting other couple issues. we to cut long-term spending on retirement programs to make them more in line with economic growth, not make t
i started to say this before the election day. the first step in the fiscal cliff ought to be a republican discussion about what they were and were not willing to do. that did that seem to take place until earlier this week. the conversation was inconclusive. the one thing that has not happened yet, democrats have provided the votes on a lot of budget-related matters over the years but it was only after the tea party gave boehner permission to negotiate with the democrats -- those circumstances...
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he has not only been elected to the senate, he has had executive appointments, people forget he was the number two at the veterans administration in the reagan years when i was there. the other is he has shown battlefield cure rams you know, he has won the purple heart. he is also shown bureaucratic courage because he resigned from theed very veterans administration as a comparatively young man when the head of the veterans administration was saying agent orange is sort of like acting. what an insult to the people who served. so he stepped aside. he is the head of the president's foreign intelligence advisory board and more important, defense -- running defense a big management job. he has been very successful in the private sector. >> it is indeed. dr. larry korb, worth the wait, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >>> up next, more on the fiscal cliff, lawmakers have hit a major snag in the negotiations and we are just two days before the deadline. [ female announcer ] want younger looking eyes that say wow with olay, here's how. new regenerist eye and lash duo th
he has not only been elected to the senate, he has had executive appointments, people forget he was the number two at the veterans administration in the reagan years when i was there. the other is he has shown battlefield cure rams you know, he has won the purple heart. he is also shown bureaucratic courage because he resigned from theed very veterans administration as a comparatively young man when the head of the veterans administration was saying agent orange is sort of like acting. what an...
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dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn international anchor jim clancy is with me now. jim, this is such a hyper-focused american problem and yet it's really a problem for the whole world. >> it definitely is. if mitch mcconnell is looking for a dance partner. the united states is the dance partner for the entire world. the markets hate uncertainty what they hate even more is steering abject failure square in the face. those markets are going to open up in four or five hours' time we should see some limited reaction in asia. but perhaps not yet. it's still uncertain what is going to happen here. the
dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn...
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then he's going to have to go back to his caucus and say re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> i think it's two separate questions, richard. on the first point he's going to have a difficult time to corral votes. if the president bring his 250 plan to the house floor, you're not going to see many republicans go after it. but at the same time i think boehner is pretty safe when it comes to his speakership. if gentlemen were making noise against the speaker, there would be huge trouble. i think boehner's pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> sam, if boehner's safe in his job, it doesn't mean to say he's at all relevant here. he's just not a factor at this point, is that right? >> i think it's right but it's because boehner expressed he couldn't get his plan throw the court. i can only imagine how angry mcconnell and his staff are because they put him in a bind. all the while mitch mcconnell's got an eye on 2014 when he's up for re-election but the house speaker has shown he's largely ineffectual when it comes to this stuff. but i see what he's s
then he's going to have to go back to his caucus and say re-elect me as speaker. how does he do that? >> i think it's two separate questions, richard. on the first point he's going to have a difficult time to corral votes. if the president bring his 250 plan to the house floor, you're not going to see many republicans go after it. but at the same time i think boehner is pretty safe when it comes to his speakership. if gentlemen were making noise against the speaker, there would be huge...
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and what was really remarkable is by time election day rolled around, the election had almost become a referendum on mitt romney. gwen: yeah, funny how they turned that around. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's expectations is what the obama campaign said they were going to do, was that they were going to turn out an electorate in 2012 that looked very much like the electorate in 2008, that they were going to get huge numbers of african americans and young people. that they were going to mobilize the hispanic vote. a lot of republicans couldn't believe these polling numbers. there were so much talk of skewed polls. after the election the romney campaign said they just couldn't believe that the obama operation was capable of doing this. >> karen, to what extent do we think that the electorate that they produced in
and what was really remarkable is by time election day rolled around, the election had almost become a referendum on mitt romney. gwen: yeah, funny how they turned that around. after it was all over, a lot of the things we didn't believe during the campaign, the obama people said oh, we figured this out. we know who our voters are. we know where to spend the money. we thought they were boasting. and it turns out they were right. >> the one thing, really, i think defied everybody's...
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i know house republicans say we were re-elected to you do you think winning the presidential election has a certain force to it maybe he feels overrides that. >> it was. it was good, solid win. 47, 48% of the country didn't agree with him. so that's not a small little number of differing opinions. >> that's true. and i think the president actually is complicit in our permanent state of cliffitis. we are going to have a tiny patch, not going to have a real deal that solves our problems. we're going into another fight. the world has been waiting for a year and a half for us to solve our first debt deal. it fell apart. waiting on a second one. we're going to rattle the global markets, tell our enemies we're cutting our military. we are telling everyone we're paralyzed. he's going to be complicit in that. it's not good for him to go into his second term the beginning of it, without the ability to go on to move on to clean fights. we're always at the cliff, always at the precipes of default and the inability to deal with entitlements to really give on -- and move to the center, on the side
i know house republicans say we were re-elected to you do you think winning the presidential election has a certain force to it maybe he feels overrides that. >> it was. it was good, solid win. 47, 48% of the country didn't agree with him. so that's not a small little number of differing opinions. >> that's true. and i think the president actually is complicit in our permanent state of cliffitis. we are going to have a tiny patch, not going to have a real deal that solves our...
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the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> the president seemed to be much more comfortable in the white house briefing room today using the bully pulpit saying enough is enough. >> he did. i thought that he sounded like a man who knows he holds, if not all of the cards, but a lot of them. he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public blames the republicans when this happens when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have changed since last week, but it seemed like president obama was saying something that he was planning to say if it came down to the last few days. >> joy, is this the same kind of negotiation we saw in the first term? >> well, richard, one of the things that you didn
the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> the president seemed to be much more comfortable in the white house briefing room today using the bully pulpit saying enough is enough. >> he did. i thought that he sounded like a man who knows he holds, if not all of the cards, but a lot of them. he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public...
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which if that were to happen, what would the country think of our elected officials? but i want to ask that in a broad sense. you've followed politics for a long time. when you look at this from the outside and you're an average american, basically the media is saying, congress, if they don't do anything now, might as well pass something on january 3rd but in actuality they could pass today. do you think people are understanding how absurd it is? >> no. the american people understand how absurd this is. we've been seeing poll after poll after poll showing the american people, if the country goes over the cliff, would is to blame? the republicans get the majority of the blame. speaker boehner and his plan b could not even get the republicans in his caucus to pass a tax increase on people making $1 million when we already know through november election and through subsequent public opinion polls, the american people are perfectly fine with raising taxes on people earning incomes of $250,000 and above. so the idea that the republican party can't -- i mean, i should say s
which if that were to happen, what would the country think of our elected officials? but i want to ask that in a broad sense. you've followed politics for a long time. when you look at this from the outside and you're an average american, basically the media is saying, congress, if they don't do anything now, might as well pass something on january 3rd but in actuality they could pass today. do you think people are understanding how absurd it is? >> no. the american people understand how...
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and i think the 2012 election shows i. we have this remnant, these tea party people who held onto 2012. by the i want, the democrats made gains for the house and i'm talking about the extremists who used to have a more reasonable approachment and it was because of the congressional merriment. we have bad luck. the best republican year happened to be 2010, which was the year that the governors and the legislatures elected did congressional redistricting. they said the democrats would is picked up more seats, maybe six more. we wouldn't have controlled the house, but it would have been a significant increase. i think the american public has made it clear that they do not agree with the republican right wing. they don't want social security and medicare to be taken about. they're not hung up on other people's private lives and emotional lives and they're supporting the people with the same sex right to marry. now on gun control, they're on the wrong side. so i am optimistic that we are going to see the elections of 2012. i th
and i think the 2012 election shows i. we have this remnant, these tea party people who held onto 2012. by the i want, the democrats made gains for the house and i'm talking about the extremists who used to have a more reasonable approachment and it was because of the congressional merriment. we have bad luck. the best republican year happened to be 2010, which was the year that the governors and the legislatures elected did congressional redistricting. they said the democrats would is picked...
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this was an election, barack obama won by three percentage points. this is a divided country right now. it's not me and grover. >> it does not absolve anyone of the responsibility of getting the business of the nation done. >> i agree with that. i agree. i want a resolution here. and i think actually there's room for -- i think there will be some kind of bargain in the next couple days or next few weeks and then we move on to these bigger issues that you've been talking about, tax reform, et cetera. one last point if i may. whether we improve these tax increases for the rich or not, as you know, you've said, we still have a trillion-dollar deficit. we have a lot of work to do. >> we do. all i ask is that we get the work done. steven moore, always a pleasure. thank you. we'll talk to you a lot in 2013. >>> up next, the great tax debate that steven was just talking act. does raising tax on the wealthy really hurt the economy? i'll give you an answer. s. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. ar
this was an election, barack obama won by three percentage points. this is a divided country right now. it's not me and grover. >> it does not absolve anyone of the responsibility of getting the business of the nation done. >> i agree with that. i agree. i want a resolution here. and i think actually there's room for -- i think there will be some kind of bargain in the next couple days or next few weeks and then we move on to these bigger issues that you've been talking about, tax...
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we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put anything serious on the table still on spending cuts, ron. i think that's, you're right urkts bo, both sides have to give a little bit here, i haven't seen much give on the democrats' side of the aisle here. >> the inability to comp prom my keith stone to democrat circumstance todd, why don't you weigh in on this. what is your feelings with what has to be dealt with by not just this congress but 1913th congress, numerology could worry you a little bit. >> stephen hit the nail on the head, talk about the spending cuts, that actually is not even in existence right now you right now you the top line issue has been about tax revenues and increasing those tax and who it is going to him. realistically though, those spending cut russ critical because, like you said i martin, a debt ceiling of $16.3 trillion right now and you have to cut back, the big issue, what makes all of this so complicated is that if
we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put anything serious on the table still on spending cuts, ron. i think that's, you're right urkts bo, both sides have to give a little bit here, i haven't seen much give on the democrats' side of the aisle here. >> the inability to comp prom my keith stone to democrat circumstance todd, why don't you weigh in on this. what is your feelings with...
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this is part of the story of the 2012 election and maybe the never several elections. sam wang had an accurate forecasting model. he sent us a cartoon rather than a chart. he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word. have a good night. >> the house of representatives. has known for over a year that it has a monday night deadline for avoiding the fiscal cliff. so when are they going to start working on that? sunday night. >> stalemate gridlock joorks this is what the holidays look like. >> there is so much manure around here. >> this isn't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday
this is part of the story of the 2012 election and maybe the never several elections. sam wang had an accurate forecasting model. he sent us a cartoon rather than a chart. he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it...
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could have changed the presidential election, significant way. and especially, when you look at the way that john roberts was the deciding vote, the swing vote to uphold the health care law. that is a significant, important thing that will have lasting impacts on politics and policy for years to come. >> thank you, edward, for your time today. >>> today's tweet of the day, people, you don't need to go shopping today. relax. make the most of a day at home. i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our option
could have changed the presidential election, significant way. and especially, when you look at the way that john roberts was the deciding vote, the swing vote to uphold the health care law. that is a significant, important thing that will have lasting impacts on politics and policy for years to come. >> thank you, edward, for your time today. >>> today's tweet of the day, people, you don't need to go shopping today. relax. make the most of a day at home. i love 'em even more. i...
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i wrote about this two days after the election. what the president has done is take a battlefield victory and pursued the enemy in the woods and routed them. the advisers know that john boehner could not, cannot, would not pass a bill in the house of representatives to raise tax rates. john boehner came out the day after the election and tried to preempt that. he knew it was coming and trying to raise revenues closing loopholes. we won't raise tax rates, however. the president has compromised. he's gone from 250 to 400. he's changed some other things. he put the social security benefit reductions on the table. the so-called chain cpi and they knew all along -- i don't know if this was third intention or overt thinking but they're very smart people and no wriggle room, no flexibility for john boehner and pressing him, the party was going to explode ear and parentally that's what's happening in the house of representatives. >> peter, my friend chris krueger had a fun if not me l melancholy quote saying we expect obama will reveal a n
i wrote about this two days after the election. what the president has done is take a battlefield victory and pursued the enemy in the woods and routed them. the advisers know that john boehner could not, cannot, would not pass a bill in the house of representatives to raise tax rates. john boehner came out the day after the election and tried to preempt that. he knew it was coming and trying to raise revenues closing loopholes. we won't raise tax rates, however. the president has compromised....
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we won the election, hold firm. so you're beginning to see that within the democratic party, the president has sort of spoken favorably about the social security fix. it was part of a broader package. but he's talked favorably about it. some democrats don't want to do that. while we've seen these rifts in the republican party. about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party about what programs should be cut and what programs should be saved. and i think that's a little of what you're seeing now. i don't know if it's enough to sort of throw the whole deal out. i think only those folks -- you did hear the folks, senator mcconnell saying i've called my friend joe biden, can he get to the president. it's clear that the democrats are saying that the president is the one who won't -- you know, who doesn't want to put up a counteroffer. so we'll see. >> changes by the hour. >> candy crowley, thank you as
we won the election, hold firm. so you're beginning to see that within the democratic party, the president has sort of spoken favorably about the social security fix. it was part of a broader package. but he's talked favorably about it. some democrats don't want to do that. while we've seen these rifts in the republican party. about whether to raise taxes, tax rates on anybody. you're going to begin to see this conversation as the conversation moves forward. the rifts in the democratic party...
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the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are terrible at your jobs. i really don't like working with you. we're going to talk a bit later in the show about everybody hates congress and what we can do about that. but as much as the public hates congress, you really get the feeling that congress' approval rating among president obama is in the neighborhood of negative 75,000 percent. and yes, numbers geeks, not a real number. but he seems really tired of working with these people. but there is a way in which congress, and particularly congressional republicans may actually be helping president obama out right now. everybody's always known two things about the cliff. you're almost certainly going to get more taxes in a deal after you go over than in a deal before you go over it. that's because after you go over the cliff, taxes already go up for everybody. so anything you do, any reasonable deal congress reaches, it will be a big tax cut. but the other thing about the f
the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. and needs to stop. >> i just have to repeat, congress, you are terrible at your jobs. i really don't like working with you. we're going to talk a bit later in the show about everybody hates congress and what we can do about that. but as much as the public hates congress, you really get the feeling that congress' approval rating among president obama is in the neighborhood of negative 75,000 percent....
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our elected officials are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. not a lobbying group. the lobbyists have our deposit by the throats. not the voters, the lobbyists. you are seeing politicians make decisions based upon what they think the money is going to say from the lobbying groups. the nra is one example, but once upon a time we were wrestling against tobacco companies trying to do the right thing and having politicians handcuffed from doing the right thing for the american people because of lobbying groups, because of money. what we're experiencing right now is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get really serious about the way that we're being governed and who is actually governing us. we can't sit here and allow the nra to be the dictator of gun policy because they're a lobbying group, and that's what anna is talking about and that we need for the american people. go back and look at the money trail. look at what politicians are talking about gun rights and look how much money they have received from the nra. you show me one politician t
our elected officials are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. not a lobbying group. the lobbyists have our deposit by the throats. not the voters, the lobbyists. you are seeing politicians make decisions based upon what they think the money is going to say from the lobbying groups. the nra is one example, but once upon a time we were wrestling against tobacco companies trying to do the right thing and having politicians handcuffed from doing the right thing for the american people...
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he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about going over the fiscal cliff at this point? >> i don't actually buy this argument that people are happy going over the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they'r
he's going to get re-elected house speaker and not have the authority to do the job he's been given. john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good...
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>> i would. >> and safer politically for an election in a general election given the fact people normally want to switch parties every eight years. you don't want to run as a xerox of obama. your thoughts. >> i do think she's to the right on foreign policy. i think what's going to be really interesting is seeing where she is economically. she's been very savvy about using economic statecraft to advance foreign policy goals for the u.s. it will be interesting to see what she brings to the economic debate because i think that's still going to be a debate in the next election. jobs. how to grow, how to get the country back on track. it will be really interesting to see where it comes off. >> i have you as a feminist, everybody is a feminist right now. it's a good position to be in politically. do you think she will have an unusually high draw among women voters? and that's maybe a dumb question, but could she get up to 65% or 70% of the women voters as opposed to 55%. >> that would be a high number. if anybody can do it, she can. i see her having tremendous strength there, and that's a demog
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>> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims.
>> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's...
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mitch mcconnell, up for re-election. will he craft a deal with harry reid? that's dicey. whatever bill is passed, may not be that popular. raising tax rates and probably cut back on benefits so, remains to be seen if they can get 60 in the senate and 218 in the house. but boehner may have to put that senate pass bill of the 250,000 obama plan, he says that doesn't have the votes topaz the house. he may have to prove that. >> real quickly i want to shift gears here and talk about chuck hagel and the potential of him being put up to the cabinet level position of secretary of defense. and getting criticism from the left and the right, chuck schumer declining to endorse him yesterday on meet the press. i want to play for everybody what andrea mitchell also said on "meet the press." >> this white house cannot continue to float trial balloons and then not have them shot down. the president can't perceived to being rolled by opponents. the problem of chuck hagel with support in the foreign policy community is shot at from the left and the right. >> i want to put it to you, both.
mitch mcconnell, up for re-election. will he craft a deal with harry reid? that's dicey. whatever bill is passed, may not be that popular. raising tax rates and probably cut back on benefits so, remains to be seen if they can get 60 in the senate and 218 in the house. but boehner may have to put that senate pass bill of the 250,000 obama plan, he says that doesn't have the votes topaz the house. he may have to prove that. >> real quickly i want to shift gears here and talk about chuck...
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do you think there is any worry that he may not be elected speaker on the first ballot come that election at the beginning of the year? >> there is no worry. he had the complete support of everybody for plan b and has the support for speakership for most of the members that were opposed. this was a debate and discussion and not over his leadership. honestly not for two years, but for four. >> four more years for john boehner. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> house democrats have spent the past two years on the sidelines of major policy decisions. if a fiscal cliff vote happened before january 1st, you could have a major influence on the nation's economic future. democratic congressman john yarmouth served and a lonely planet and ranked the number one city in america. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank, luke. come any time. >> i will ask you, are you surprised that you are in washington, d.c. today or you are not in washington, d.c. today and do you have plans on traveling back? >> i'm very surprise and no, i'm not going to come back unless there is a reason to. we have a big bask
do you think there is any worry that he may not be elected speaker on the first ballot come that election at the beginning of the year? >> there is no worry. he had the complete support of everybody for plan b and has the support for speakership for most of the members that were opposed. this was a debate and discussion and not over his leadership. honestly not for two years, but for four. >> four more years for john boehner. we appreciate it. >> thanks. >> house...
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democrats won the election. but what's weird is at the elite level and the elite level matters in politics. the elite level gets through to politicians in between elections. at the elite level you've got folks in the media, powerful ceos, people who run interest folks, and a lot of these folks, they want to keep up relations on both sides of the aisle, and so they find it safer to blame both sides for not coming together than to blame one side for not allowing any coming together. >> the battle over how to avoid going over the fiscal cliff ramped up today as both sides were long on rhetoric and threats but short on actual movement. >> i think both sides deserve some blame here. >> chris, i'm not certain there's not politics on both sides. >> again, i thinks there's intransigence on both sides. >> with all respect it seems like both sides seem to be we're waiting for them, we're waiting for, this we're waiting for, that but the fact is nothing ever gets done. >> blaming both sides instead of pointing fingers when
democrats won the election. but what's weird is at the elite level and the elite level matters in politics. the elite level gets through to politicians in between elections. at the elite level you've got folks in the media, powerful ceos, people who run interest folks, and a lot of these folks, they want to keep up relations on both sides of the aisle, and so they find it safer to blame both sides for not coming together than to blame one side for not allowing any coming together. >> the...
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no progress before the election campaign began. no progress during the campaign. then more recently, house speaker john boehner and president obama each made important concessions. the president on entitlement spending. speaker boehner on upper income tax rates. speaker boehner, though, could not get conservative republicans to go along and seemed at a loss on what to do next. >> we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many of us believe on both sides of the aisle on the fundamental reform of the tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama, meantime, seemed to lose patience. no sign he's eager to go off the cliff, but he's also not ready, either, to get in his words, what he'll get for free when the bush tax cuts expire tuesday morning. democratic lawmakers, though, are more willing to let that and everything else happen and both sides are still pointing fingers. take a look at mitch mcconnell and harry re
no progress before the election campaign began. no progress during the campaign. then more recently, house speaker john boehner and president obama each made important concessions. the president on entitlement spending. speaker boehner on upper income tax rates. speaker boehner, though, could not get conservative republicans to go along and seemed at a loss on what to do next. >> we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many of us believe on both sides of the...
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he would not get an absolute majority and would not be elected speaker in the first round. that would be the second blow in one week, and that may be enough to deter him. host: sequestration was a democratic deal. so let's go with it? >> i would not call sequestration a democratic deal. i would call that a deal between the republican congress and the president. all deal with sequestration, if we remember, was not to have it take effect. it was to have such a bad outcome that the super committee that was created in august 2011 debt ceiling deal, have them be so afraid of the sequestration that they would reach some sort of bipartisan compromise that would reduce deficits by the same amount that sequestration was expected to but in a much more sensible, balanced way. the democrats and republicans on the super committee were not able to reach an agreement, and that is why you have the sequestration. sequestration was never really intended to be policy. it was intended to be so bad and foolish that democrats and republicans would be forced to agree to something instead of it. o
he would not get an absolute majority and would not be elected speaker in the first round. that would be the second blow in one week, and that may be enough to deter him. host: sequestration was a democratic deal. so let's go with it? >> i would not call sequestration a democratic deal. i would call that a deal between the republican congress and the president. all deal with sequestration, if we remember, was not to have it take effect. it was to have such a bad outcome that the super...
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you don't get elected and say elected without being someone who is smart, gifted and savvy. and put them against scott brown there and it will be an ain'ting race. that is saying who knows who else could jump into the race. >> i think the key to the point is you is to go with scott brown's middle name and that is mitch mcconnell. and the idea that you are going to cut social service during this recession, at the end of the day i don't think you can vote for him as a leader. >> before we go, do you think there is a chance that scott brown won't run? >> he is waiting in the wings if scott brown doesn't run? >> he ran for governor of new york and more power to him if he he can pull it off but national republicans and the money thinks he has the best shot. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, our final update or the year. on the kind fund. i'll read some of the comments that you have left about it. in the rewrite tonight i can understand why the guys in the vatican are so wrong about marriage. so if it fair that we expect them to understand the first think about
you don't get elected and say elected without being someone who is smart, gifted and savvy. and put them against scott brown there and it will be an ain'ting race. that is saying who knows who else could jump into the race. >> i think the key to the point is you is to go with scott brown's middle name and that is mitch mcconnell. and the idea that you are going to cut social service during this recession, at the end of the day i don't think you can vote for him as a leader. >>...
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now, having said that, elections matter. so, we believe that the 250,000 threshold is the appropriate threshold. the president did make an offer, we understand, of $400,000. with a trillion in cuts. accompanying it. that was turned down by the house. the time has come, really, to measure the absence of a deal plus -- against a deal. and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our economic base is just too great not to have a solution. so, you know, what makes this government work, is compromise, and, it is when you don't compromise, there is stasis -- >> you say 400,000 you could live with, not happily -- >> isn't that the question i will get asked? where does the money go? let's say it is $400,000. people vote $400,000, pay 39.3. >> chris: which is roughly $600 billion. >> if i'm asked at home, senator graham, what will we do with the money, what will i say. >> it is added to make up the deficit that everyone has bee
now, having said that, elections matter. so, we believe that the 250,000 threshold is the appropriate threshold. the president did make an offer, we understand, of $400,000. with a trillion in cuts. accompanying it. that was turned down by the house. the time has come, really, to measure the absence of a deal plus -- against a deal. and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our...
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up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> there's been a lot of talk about gun laws since the shootings in newtown, connecticut, one result seems to be increased support four tougher gun laws. 58% of americans polled say they want to see stricter gun laws as opposed to 34% who wants things kept the way they are. compare that to a year ago when only 43% wanted to see stricter laws. it's worth remembering, however, that support for tougher laws often spikes and then fades after mass shootings. of course, the nra always stands in the way of any new or reviewed restrictions, but, of course, we all know that. and we'll be right back. that support for tougher laws that support for tougher laws [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine yo
up next, the election is over. now it's time for president obama to get things done and he has less time than you might think. strategizing a second term. let's talk the future. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> there's been a lot of talk about gun laws since the shootings in newtown, connecticut, one result seems to be increased support four tougher gun laws. 58% of americans polled say they want to see stricter gun laws as opposed to 34% who wants things kept...
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tell them we're strong, the white house, we were re-elected. you go home. you go home and deal with it because this is out of control and nobody's angry enough to realize it. >> you're angry enough. >> i'm alone. >> no, you're not. >> michael shear's not angry. he's measured and i understand that and we're playing different roles sometimes but if you're a reporter and following this and following this for a year or two, some point you have to say this is insanity and the threat to the economy is not a reasonable way to govern. >> mike, how -- again, not to oversimplify this thing, but how did we get here? i think most folks following this fairly closely assumed that as is the case with a lot of things in washington, d.c. that at the 11th hour withere will ba deal that gets done. there are a lot of folks involved in the deal making saying, it won't happen this time. >> well, look. i think ari is right in one real respect which is they set this up, you know, more than a year ago as a way of trying to provide counter pressure to the political pressures that ex
tell them we're strong, the white house, we were re-elected. you go home. you go home and deal with it because this is out of control and nobody's angry enough to realize it. >> you're angry enough. >> i'm alone. >> no, you're not. >> michael shear's not angry. he's measured and i understand that and we're playing different roles sometimes but if you're a reporter and following this and following this for a year or two, some point you have to say this is insanity and the...
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merkel has an election coming up soon. i don't think you'll see germany doing a lot of bailing out the rest of europe. and europe is the number one global concern to this day. if europe doesn't do well, the rest of the world economy is going to suffer. >> gregg: what about japan? is it insolvent already? >> yeah. a lot of people believe so. that will be a big story in 2014. just recently japan announced that they are going to start printed ago lot of money and last week, you saw the yen drop in value 15% which means that, if what we are company exporting to japan that just hurts our sales quite a bit because the value of their yen is less. so not able to buy as many products which is then, gregg, to hurt our stock market because a lot of our growth comes outside our borders of the united states. this is is a problem that goes directly to nks 401-k plan. >> then there is china which is the growth juggernaut but it accelerated? >> in fact the beginning of the year they are looking at double-digit growth. we're going to see 6
merkel has an election coming up soon. i don't think you'll see germany doing a lot of bailing out the rest of europe. and europe is the number one global concern to this day. if europe doesn't do well, the rest of the world economy is going to suffer. >> gregg: what about japan? is it insolvent already? >> yeah. a lot of people believe so. that will be a big story in 2014. just recently japan announced that they are going to start printed ago lot of money and last week, you saw the...
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but let's understand, we just had an election, and the president got re-elected for the second time. which says that a majority of the american people are not swayed nor influenced by that sort of sick and sadistic thinking. what i prefer to focus on is not simply that, but the underlying disparities, the previous segment on violence, and the need for jobs for young men of color and people of all colors, in urban communities. which is, i think, the more appropriate thing for us to discuss when we talk about how to address that. he's got a right to be a damned fool. >> well, damned fool, he is, indeed. reverend marcia dyson, you were a maven of social media. social media has provided wonderful outlets for people to articulate their views, but it's obviously showed to america the true colors of what some people think and bigots with megaphones, so to speak. so when the president interrupted sunday night football to speak in newtown, connecticut, twitter went crazy and interrupted with all kinds of racial slurs. how do we as a society confront this sort of behavior? >> well, you know, i
but let's understand, we just had an election, and the president got re-elected for the second time. which says that a majority of the american people are not swayed nor influenced by that sort of sick and sadistic thinking. what i prefer to focus on is not simply that, but the underlying disparities, the previous segment on violence, and the need for jobs for young men of color and people of all colors, in urban communities. which is, i think, the more appropriate thing for us to discuss when...
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we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. >>> fiscal cliff fears pushing stocks lower but we're well off those lows right now and news that the house will reconvene on sunday evening at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. let's get to seemor, modi with more on this. >> hi, mandy, off of our lows, but today a risk-off approach to trading. that's a strategy being used as wall street is waiting by for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. interestingly enough when you look at the year-
we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and...
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obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election, he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do because he backed off of even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the republicans, and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that they would support and boehner would support it if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very curious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. what's going on here? mr. president, you can't
obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election, he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do because he backed off of even his own...
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history to survive a recall election. and another nod to a republican governor. >> i cannot thank the president enough for his personal concern and compassion for our state and for the people of our state. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie's full-on embrace of president obama for helping sandy-ravaged new jersey came days before the election and had no noticeable effect on the presidential race, but some republicans think christie didn't have to be that efuse sieve. they'll remember if his name pops up in 2016. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> reporter: from the say what category of entries comes a combo team, missouri senate candidate todd akin and richard murdoch of indiana. >> life is that gift from god, and i think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god intended to happen. >> republican dreams to take control of the senate in 2012 had dwipdalled throughout the year, but akin and maur dock prett
history to survive a recall election. and another nod to a republican governor. >> i cannot thank the president enough for his personal concern and compassion for our state and for the people of our state. >> reporter: new jersey governor chris christie's full-on embrace of president obama for helping sandy-ravaged new jersey came days before the election and had no noticeable effect on the presidential race, but some republicans think christie didn't have to be that efuse sieve....
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he is newly elected congressman heading on to the capitol hill quagmire. cbs5 reporter juliette goodrich talked to elect eric st -- eric swelwell. >> it is avoidable. >> reporter: he said he's ready to bring some small town solutions to capitol hill. do you really think you can take the city of dublin politics to wash and it's going to work? >> -- to washington and it's going to work? >> at the end of the day it's about personal relationships and trust. >> reporter: he said he had to work with republicans in order to pass the city budget and says it's the same kind. compromise strategy in washington -- kind of compromise strategy in washington. >> i'm still confident we can beat the clock and deliver on middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: i asked him to give me one word to describe his feelings entering this fiscal cliff shark tank. >> excitement. >> reporter: s this doomsday. >> but i'm confident -- this is doomsday. >> but i'm confident that congress will see the will of the people. >> reporter: he says he's excited about making sure his supporters know
he is newly elected congressman heading on to the capitol hill quagmire. cbs5 reporter juliette goodrich talked to elect eric st -- eric swelwell. >> it is avoidable. >> reporter: he said he's ready to bring some small town solutions to capitol hill. do you really think you can take the city of dublin politics to wash and it's going to work? >> -- to washington and it's going to work? >> at the end of the day it's about personal relationships and trust. >>...
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. >> the election. more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism and spending and cutting and what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming and didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> and make sure you join me for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politic, money and the most scandalous stories. the top ten of 2012, 8:00 eastern. a teen battling a terminal illness uses lyrics instead of letters to say goodbyes. >> it's kind of me always being there for him. like if they keep singing that song throughout their life, it will be worth it. >> this teen's final wish, next. s that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. with less chronic osteoarthri
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problem when it comes to being re-elected speaker. as a politician you start dealing with re-election you're dealing with some very serious emotional problems. and i just hope that as we go home, we've been home for the holidays, we listen to the religious leaders, the people that are really dependent on social security and health care, if we listen to the people who put us in office and those who supported the president, we should be rational in coming back to the table and trying to hold on to this much credibility if we have any left at all and get this job done. >> there it is. rational and perhaps even rational exuberance like the market. congressman charlie rangel, thank you so much, my friend. >> thank you, doctor. >>> now let's turn to msnbc political analyst richard wolff, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com. my friend, there's more movement today than we've seen in a while, but is this just the optics? are they really trying to save face literally or is there something substantive in the offing here? >> more mov
problem when it comes to being re-elected speaker. as a politician you start dealing with re-election you're dealing with some very serious emotional problems. and i just hope that as we go home, we've been home for the holidays, we listen to the religious leaders, the people that are really dependent on social security and health care, if we listen to the people who put us in office and those who supported the president, we should be rational in coming back to the table and trying to hold on...